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murdo:
You must have a loose connection somewhere, or a short to earth.

FT500R:
Haven't posted in a long time and this was mainly because the bike wasn't running and I didn't have time to address it.

Spend some time on it the past few weeks and did find a couple of electrical issues.
The starter control unit seems to have died. I've connected the yellow black wire directly to the green red effectively bypassing the SCU. I don't see the purpose of that thing anyway...
Next to that I ran another ground wire directly from the battery negative and that seems to help a lot.
The starter motor spins now, all the relays work as intended but it seems like there is a (mechanical) problem between the starter motor and the pinion gear.
I think the starter motor bearing is so worn out that the motor doesn't engage with the Gear between the starter motor and the pinion gear.
I know this bearing is a weak spot so will try and source a replacement. Anyone know the correct type?
Does mean taking of the complete left engine cover to reach it though :(
Next to that I think my battery is dying on me.
After 2 or 3 start attempts it will not be able to get the motor to turn anymore. It doesn't slow down or anything but it just more or less shuts down.
I can still hear the relays clicking but the starter motor doesn't turn and the cockpit does a restart sequence as if I switched of the ignition. I think it does this because the battery cannot handle the required starting current anymore.

Anyone more thoughts on this?
What other than a worn bearing could cause the startmotor not to engage with the intermediate gear? (Start motor shaft looks ok, some small wear marks. When I do not have the pinion gear installed the startmotor does turn the intermediate gear but as soon as I install the pinion gear it doesn't anymore.)
And perhaps some tips for the battery check?

Regards,
Paul

J6G1Z:
Paul,

Check out the Yahoo FT500 Ascot owners group. The admin there is real sharp on the FT starter system.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/honda-ascot/info

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/honda-ascot/files

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/honda-ascot/files/Starter%20Issues/

Good luck
J.

FT500R:
Bike is still not running.
Still problems with the starter.
I think the starter control unit died. Anyone any idea how to bypass it or test it to see if it is broken?

hellblom:
Hi!

my tip is to skip the starter control unit all together. Check my simplification of the electric system out in the thread here: https://advrider.com/f/threads/honda-ft-500-ascot-group.1420469/page-3

My electric system is now without both the SCU and the starter solenoid relay and the drawback is that I can start the bike with a gear in, which for me is not a big problem but perhaps for some.

Regards
Olle

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